race equality/justice is a war

topic posted Mon, December 6, 2004 - 11:20 PM by  Nick
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It is human nature to help someone of your own race, especially when given a choice to pick someone of your own race verse someone of another race. 20/20 did a report on this some number of years ago. They took men and women, black and white, and gave people the opportunity to help either a homeless person by giving them money, or help a businessperson pick up papers that fell from their briefcase. I believe the results were grim. People tend to help people that are more similar to them.

Is this instinctual? I think so. It is in a human beings' nature to keep his "race" alive (literal meaning, not as in "human race" as a whole). Yet, in our age of logic and reasoning, the inner beast tends to prevail. It may be hundreds or thousands of years before the human brain can evolve to a point where they can accept all instinct. Until then, war is a natural occurrence, and may remain a burden on the human sprit.

Is it by coincidence that ethnic communities flourish in every major city, especially in the US? Is it not another coincidence that these communities are then subdivided into economic classes? However, you may notice a blending of cutlers in metropolitan areas, especially things seem to float to their own level in socio-economics and educational status. This is to say, that educated people in major cities seem to associate with a wider variety people from diverse cultural backgrounds, but the same socio-economics and educational status. Also, note that new, progressive ideas seem to come from such communities.

Today, the knowledge that is available to consumer is larger than it may have ever been. To contrast the basic intelligence of an educated person of today with and educated person of 80 to 100 years ago, you may see a vast difference. Why? It is possibly because of competition. You are only considered smart if you are smarter than most. For the average person to be “smart” today is probably much more work than it was a century ago. It is also a between the rich and the poor. People who do not work for themselves’ are just making the rich richer and the poor poorer. With out this contrast, neither class would have its rightful name.

My conclusion is that learned acceptance of all races is the key to world peace. And without education, the world as we know it with its globalized state of air travel, telecommunications, and WMDs, is doomed. To teach hate and intolerance is too keep human evolution stagnated. We must all learn to control this instinctive tendency to favor our own race just as we have leaned to obey laws that keeps our other instinct at bay, such as stealing, raping, fighting, and running when in danger. We are in a transitional phase in human evolution, and it is not a pleasant time to exist for most people.

Other problems with this country:
Not everyone is created equal. Democracy and capitalism cannot coexist with peace. As long as people are given the will to choose, some will choose poorly, and the burden is on the society that allowed them to make the choice.
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Nick
Los Angeles
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    Re: race equality/justice is a war

    Tue, December 7, 2004 - 1:28 AM

    The problem is, Nick... people are only going to read your first paragraph and skip everything else. Then they'll get out the knife and hunt your ass down. I've learned from the knife that you shouldn't be messing with people with trick beginnings to posts and shit.

    You should straight up say you love all forms of carbon units right from the get go. Otherwise, well... you might get kilt.

    [DISCLAIMER: Anyone dressed in a cow outfit is being sometimes sarcastic, usually.]

    I saw that 20/20 show back in the day and remember it kinda. My gut reaction now is that I must have been deeply pained by the raw truth a show like 20/20 delivered. That segment probably kicked my ass with truth.

    There might be another factor instead of racial bigotry. Maybe more people are more likely to help a businessperson because most business people don't rob or harass people (on the streets) statistically? For instance, if I dress up as a leather clad gimp and drop my paperwork on the NYC streets... only other gimps would probably clamor to help me, right? But, if I dress up... wait, WTF am I talking about? Nevermind, ignore that last couple of sentences. Let's move on.


    > People tend to help people that are more similar to them.

    Well, yeah... but I remember that show. That hard hitting 20/20 clear eyesight show thing. They showed obvious "non-businesspeople" helping the (different from them) business people with their paperwork that "accidentally" fell to the street... Could it just be that people out in the streets of New York in general are more likely to trust people in uniform or in business attire no matter what their race?

    I seriously can't remember, did 20/20 present any black people in business attire? My vision is not 100% clear on that.

    Hmmm... another thing, that show was shot in NYC, right?

    I also noticed during 9/11 the white people weren't throwing black people out of the way to get to safety. They helped black people and black people helped white people survive that scary, deadly attack with amazing grace. To me it showed the world how blacks and whites truly feel about each other (overall) in this country nowadays; we love and appreciate each other. Well, at least with that kick ass group in NYC we know for sure, huh?... (and I surely suspect elsewhere)

    > My conclusion is that learned acceptance of
    > all races is the key to world peace.


    ^_^ w o r d








    Well, except for mexicans and that vile flemish race.



    I enjoyed your 3rd paragraph, by the way, it brings to light the cultural civil war between those that get along together in the city and the hicks in the sticks. Problem is for the racist hicks in the sticks is... they are surrounded.

    Almost half of them are now better educated and just as cool as the people in the cities (if not even more so in many cases) and they REJECT racism (ex-hicks who live out in the country or were never racist to begin with). I think we're winning this war as time goes by and as more American racists... well, simply die off.

    The next big problem in this country way down the road is going to be racism against whites, though. Ah, the vicious human cycle...

    (such a burnout ending, I know... but it will taper off after whites become extinct around the year 2300 or so)
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    Re: race equality/justice is a war

    Thu, December 9, 2004 - 3:41 PM
    i love everyone regardless of color, race, religion/creed, and sexual orientation. i am by far the poster child for tolerance as long as people dress well, are attractive, have good manners, speak well, have iq's high enough to qualify them for MENSA membership, or are at least borderline MENSA, and have exquisite taste in all things aesthetic and of intellectual nature.
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      Re: race equality/justice is a war

      Fri, December 10, 2004 - 10:43 PM

      nena, you hate the flemish just like the rest of us, admit it.
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        Re: race equality/justice is a war

        Fri, April 28, 2006 - 11:25 AM
        <ahem> uh, ok for a "white pride" guy to chime in on this?

        If I get what you are saying about this, I agree completely. In the glory days of civil rights, and the moral supremacy its leaders like Martin Luther King, the focus was on ending discrimination, and treating people without regard to race or creed, creed being a word I have never l looked up.

        But things changed. In unifying for the fight for equality, ethnicities, particularly minorities forming together for political action, began building strong racialy identified bonding on issues, and this crept more and more into polarizing ethnic racial objectives that began to abondon ideas of individual equality under the law and social justice without regard to race or creed.

        The most recent effects of this has been reactionary polarization of the white majority, including myself, towards its own ethnic identiy protectionism and interets seeking behaviors.

        This is a step backward from solvin racial injustice together, and in unison, towards a common objective of equaliy under the law for all, and into special interests groups vying for power, and a larger political settlement based on politicaly mustered forces in an adversarial debate.

        It may be that this is more how solutions are found in democratic captialistic democracy, special interest groups competing, rather than a marxist model of a common struggle of equals for a greater good, as was posited by the original civil rights movement, with black and white hands joined together.

        I think this is a really interesting point. While I will "war" politicaly with information for whites in racial struggle, I oppose racial injustice towards anyone, and think a key opportunity in history is being lost. On the heels of the defeat of Nazi Germany, the end of segragation and the boom of industrialized society and education, there has been a real window in world history to embrace once and for all together universal principles against discrimination and racial injustice, yet we squander this on the politics of ongoing racial animosity and embracing "reverse" discrimination, the use of racial hystrionics and baiting for the purpose of justiying appeasement and entitlement for calm, and more.

        It was neccessary to do more than end segregation in the United States to equalize opportunity for all. But I think the limmits of gains in the utility of racial "scorekeeping" and seperate racial agendas has been reached, and may become destructive giong forward.

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